Ogre Battle 64 Dec 16, 2005 16:16:01 GMT -5 Quote Select PostDeselect PostLink to PostMemberGive GiftBack to Top Post by Quezacoatl on Dec 16, 2005 16:16:01 GMT -5 I am also fairly sure it starts at 50. I don't think the enemy stronghold counts, it's just like any others that you don't liberate, they just become yours.